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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165797725" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165797725">(May 16 2019 at 10:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hello <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="897">@T-compiler/meeting</span> ; the triage meeting is in 3 hours (+ 20 minutes). I'll be doing pre-triage in this topic.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165797760" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165797760">(May 16 2019 at 10:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>unfortunately the <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/blob/master/about/triage-meeting.md#working-group-check-in" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/blob/master/about/triage-meeting.md#working-group-check-in">WG-checkin calendar</a> does not extend long enough to include today's date.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165797862" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165797862">(May 16 2019 at 10:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>looking at the previous scheduled checkin, it seems like we have not had recent checkins from WG-traits, WG-paralllel-rustc, and WG-pgo.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165797935" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165797935">(May 16 2019 at 10:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>the <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/tree/master/working-groups/traits" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/tree/master/working-groups/traits">WG-traits page</a> currently does not list a main contact.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165797966" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165797966">(May 16 2019 at 10:45)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="692">@WG-traits</span> who is the main contact for WG-traits? I assume <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> would be one option, but I'd kind of like to spread the responsibility around. <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="131694">@scalexm</span> , are you a potential lead for the WG?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798031" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798031">(May 16 2019 at 10:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>Regarding WG-parallel-rustc: <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116466">@Zoxc</span> , would you be available to provide a summary of what's happened since the last checkin?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798078" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798078">(May 16 2019 at 10:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>as for WG-pgo: perhaps if we don't hear from one of the two groups above, perhaps <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="124287">@mw</span> would be willing to provide a quick checkin from WG-pgo?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798085" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798085">(May 16 2019 at 10:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>having said that, lets continue with pre-triage.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798146" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798146">(May 16 2019 at 10:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>first pre-pass: <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3AT-compiler+-label%3AP-high++-label%3AP-medium+-label%3AP-low+label%3AI-nominated+sort%3Aupdated-desc" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3AT-compiler+-label%3AP-high++-label%3AP-medium+-label%3AP-low+label%3AI-nominated+sort%3Aupdated-desc">unprioritized nominated T-compiler issues</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798265" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798265">(May 16 2019 at 10:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>first up: " crater run to estimate impact of full NLL transition" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60680" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60680">#60680</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798279" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798279">(May 16 2019 at 10:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm going to mark this as P-medium. I'm not sure why Centril nominated it.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798358" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798358">(May 16 2019 at 10:52)</a>:</h4>
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<p>I'm not sure why Centril nominated it.</p>
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<p>To get it off the ground</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798364" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798364">(May 16 2019 at 10:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>and hopefully get someone to do it soon</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798381" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798381">(May 16 2019 at 10:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798400" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798400">(May 16 2019 at 10:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>we have got to resolve that future-compat lint thing.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798428" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798428">(May 16 2019 at 10:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>At least, it seems like I keep seeing a variety of inquiries that end up connecting to our question of how we're going to address that problem.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798460" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798460">(May 16 2019 at 10:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>Well it's on t-lang now; and I don't want to think about it atm</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798465" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798465">(May 16 2019 at 10:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>(the problem of "future compatibilty)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798478" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798478">(May 16 2019 at 10:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>Right, its possible that someone else should just take up the mantle there.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798498" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798498">(May 16 2019 at 10:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>Well we need to discuss what to do</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798499" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798499">(May 16 2019 at 10:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>(maybe I should. I sort of have other things on my plate, but that task at least seems ... like "a simple matter of programming", once we figure out what want to do.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798501" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798501">(May 16 2019 at 10:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>It's not about execution at this point, but about policy</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798509" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798509">(May 16 2019 at 10:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>right. That's the real problem: Deciding what we want to do.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798524" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798524">(May 16 2019 at 10:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>Which given niko's concerns, seems to me like something that should be floated to the core team.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798581" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798581">(May 16 2019 at 10:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>I strongly disagree with that; Lints are explicitly a matter for T-Lang and this impacts us the most.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798630" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798630">(May 16 2019 at 10:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>What?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798644" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798644">(May 16 2019 at 10:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>you honestly think its solely the domain of T-lang?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798648" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798648">(May 16 2019 at 10:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>If you think that is the consequence of it being a lint</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798694" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798694">(May 16 2019 at 10:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798704" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798704">(May 16 2019 at 10:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>well, I don't want to argue about it here.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798772" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798772">(May 16 2019 at 11:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>(that is, we can talk about it, but lets make a separate topic for it if we do.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798870" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798870">(May 16 2019 at 11:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay, anyway, regarding <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60680" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60680">#60680</a>: marked as P-medium and left I-nominated. Hopefully that will lead to it getting assigned, and then worked on. (Given that I'm on the hook in the end for NLL's progression, I will assign it to myself if no one else volunteers at the meeting.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798891" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798891">(May 16 2019 at 11:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>next: "ICE impl_trait_in_bindings with elided lifetime" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60473" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60473">#60473</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798950" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798950">(May 16 2019 at 11:02)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>(that is, we can talk about it, but lets make a separate topic for it if we do.)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I think this is something we should discuss at the t-lang meeting.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165798963" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165798963">(May 16 2019 at 11:02)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60473" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60473">#60473</a> triage: P-medium, removing nomination tag.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165799066" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165799066">(May 16 2019 at 11:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>next: "error: internal compiler error: src/librustc/ty/query/plumbing.rs:1195: Cannot force dep node: coherent_trait(core[30a9]::ops[0]::drop[0]::Drop[0])" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59731" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59731">#59731</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165799201" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165799201">(May 16 2019 at 11:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>incremental compilation bug. Does seem to have a nicely described example for reproduction.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165799282" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165799282">(May 16 2019 at 11:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>going to prioritize as P-high for now, under the theory that a well-documented incr-comp bug will be easier to squash and thus have very high value.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165799348" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165799348">(May 16 2019 at 11:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>next: "<code>rls</code> no longer builds after rust-lang/rust#60679" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60768" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60768">#60768</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165799504" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165799504">(May 16 2019 at 11:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>posted Q about whether this should be closed as fixed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165799519" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165799519">(May 16 2019 at 11:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>in terms of prioritization, i'm pretty sure its P-medium.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165799709" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165799709">(May 16 2019 at 11:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>next: "ICE: thread 'main' panicked at 'index out of bounds: the len is 0 but the index is 1', /usr/src/rustc-1.32.0/src/libcore/slice/mod.rs:2463:10" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60821" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60821">#60821</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165799858" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165799858">(May 16 2019 at 11:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>the dialogue there leads me to think that this is hard to reproduce, and was only witnessed on an relatively old version of the compiler. <span aria-label="sad" class="emoji emoji-2639" role="img" title="sad">:sad:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165799909" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165799909">(May 16 2019 at 11:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm going to leave this nominated and try to discuss it at the meeting today, in terms of getting feedback on whether we have any real hope of trying to resolve bugs like this.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165800200" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165800200">(May 16 2019 at 11:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>next: "linker error "undefined symbol: __aeabi_uidiv" for target thumbv6m-none-eabi" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60782" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60782">#60782</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165800213" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165800213">(May 16 2019 at 11:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>do we know if <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang-nursery/compiler-builtins/pull/290" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang-nursery/compiler-builtins/pull/290">PR rust-lang-nursery/compiler-builtins#290</a> fixed this?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165800309" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165800309">(May 16 2019 at 11:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>there is related bug "Cannot create rv64gc binary anymore since nightly-2019-05-10" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60747" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60747">#60747</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165800319" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> scalexm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165800319">(May 16 2019 at 11:23)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> (re: wg-traits lead, I dont think so, I thought <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116010">@Aaron Turon</span> was supposed to be co-leading with <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span>  though)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165800334" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165800334">(May 16 2019 at 11:23)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="131694">@scalexm</span> okay, I'll look into updating that WG-traits web page. Thanks!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165800445" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165800445">(May 16 2019 at 11:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll mark <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60782" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60782">#60782</a> and <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60747" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60747">#60747</a> as P-high. I don't know for sure that this target is actually a sufficiently high tier platform to warrant that prioritization, but lets start high and deprioritize later  if it turns out that the compiler-builtins PR didn't fix it.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165800448" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165800448">(May 16 2019 at 11:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>Well Aaron is on leave, so that can't be true anymore</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165800453" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mw <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165800453">(May 16 2019 at 11:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can do a quick update on WG-pgo, yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165800664" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165800664">(May 16 2019 at 11:28)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="124287">@mw</span> great, thanks!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165801040" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165801040">(May 16 2019 at 11:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>last: "forego caching cycles leads to a severe perf regression" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60846" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60846">#60846</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165801062" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165801062">(May 16 2019 at 11:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>a 16x performance loss sounds like its pretty important to investigate. P-high.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165801126" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165801126">(May 16 2019 at 11:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay, that was all the nominated unpriortized T-compiler issues.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165801162" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165801162">(May 16 2019 at 11:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>there are no <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Aopen+label%3Aregression-from-stable-to-beta++-label%3AP-high++-label%3AP-medium+-label%3AP-low+-label%3AT-libs+-label%3AT-infra+-label%3AT-rustdoc+sort%3Aupdated-desc" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Aopen+label%3Aregression-from-stable-to-beta++-label%3AP-high++-label%3AP-medium+-label%3AP-low+-label%3AT-libs+-label%3AT-infra+-label%3AT-rustdoc+sort%3Aupdated-desc">unprioritized beta-regressions</a> for us.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165801169" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165801169">(May 16 2019 at 11:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>and there are no <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Aopen+label%3Aregression-from-stable-to-nightly++-label%3AP-high++-label%3AP-medium+-label%3AP-low+-label%3AT-infra+-label%3AT-rustdoc+sort%3Aupdated-desc" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Aopen+label%3Aregression-from-stable-to-nightly++-label%3AP-high++-label%3AP-medium+-label%3AP-low+-label%3AT-infra+-label%3AT-rustdoc+sort%3Aupdated-desc">unprioritized nightly regressions</a> for us.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165801260" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165801260">(May 16 2019 at 11:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>we have 28 open <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3AT-compiler+label%3AP-high++sort%3Aupdated-desc" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3AT-compiler+label%3AP-high++sort%3Aupdated-desc">P-high T-compiler</a> issues.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165801265" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165801265">(May 16 2019 at 11:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think I am going to revise the agenda slightly</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165801283" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165801283">(May 16 2019 at 11:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>and actually separate assigned from unassigned issues, if I can. let me see.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165801415" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165801415">(May 16 2019 at 11:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>there's an easy way to search for all unassigned issues, but I don't see a way to view solely the assigned ones.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165801496" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165801496">(May 16 2019 at 11:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay, so, never mind that idea.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165801504" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165801504">(May 16 2019 at 11:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll just add an (optional) link for unassigned to the agenda</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165801645" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165801645">(May 16 2019 at 11:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm. We have the triage link set up to sort by updated-desc. but I might think updated-asc could make more sense, in that we would want to encourage visiting issues that have otherwise been overlooked... (Update: actually, I don't think the link specifies any sort. I don't know whether its some setting of <em>my own</em> that's making github do that, or a site default...)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165801659" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165801659">(May 16 2019 at 11:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>(this is probably something to discuss at the Steering meeting on our Issue Triage strategy...)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165802175" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165802175">(May 16 2019 at 11:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway, just to mix things up, I'm going to try to iterate through the P-high T-compiler issues now by sorting by <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?q=is%3Aissue+label%3AT-compiler+label%3AP-high+is%3Aopen+sort%3Aupdated-asc" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?q=is%3Aissue+label%3AT-compiler+label%3AP-high+is%3Aopen+sort%3Aupdated-asc">updated-asc</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165802281" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165802281">(May 16 2019 at 11:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>first up: "Compiler panic when using a slice pattern" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59016" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59016">#59016</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165802366" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165802366">(May 16 2019 at 11:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>this is waiting on PR <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59369" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59369">#59369</a>, which is marked as S-waiting-on-author. Last update from <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="124288">@oli</span> was 23 days ago.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165802378" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165802378">(May 16 2019 at 11:54)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="124288">@oli</span> , if you get a chance, maybe write a note about your plans regarding PR <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59369" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59369">#59369</a> on that PR?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165802422" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165802422">(May 16 2019 at 11:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>I also am having trouble believing that the issue <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59016" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59016">#59016</a> can really be P-high, given how relatively low priority its associated PR has gottne.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165802529" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165802529">(May 16 2019 at 11:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm going to lower its priority to P-medium.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165802657" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165802657">(May 16 2019 at 11:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>next: "ICE in librustc_codegen_llvm when building kernel" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59548" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59548">#59548</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165802677" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165802677">(May 16 2019 at 11:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>btw, <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60479#issuecomment-493029604" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60479#issuecomment-493029604">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60479#issuecomment-493029604</a> is no longer nominated for t-compiler but with the new details it should be?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165802698" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165802698">(May 16 2019 at 11:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>I continue to believe that <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59548" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59548">#59548</a> is a (known) limitation of <code>#[linkage]</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165802805" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165802805">(May 16 2019 at 12:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't know if we're going to readily find volunteers to implement the feature requested in issue <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60479" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60479">#60479</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165802812" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165802812">(May 16 2019 at 12:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I can believe we should at least float it for discussion</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165802821" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165802821">(May 16 2019 at 12:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll tag and nominate.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165802829" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165802829">(May 16 2019 at 12:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>Would be nice to have it implemented so we don't repeat these mistakes <span aria-label="slight smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="slight smile">:slight_smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165802845" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165802845">(May 16 2019 at 12:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>sure, but the team that would benefit the most explicitly did not volunteer.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165802863" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165802863">(May 16 2019 at 12:01)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> maybe an E-easy issue?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165802872" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165802872">(May 16 2019 at 12:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>(T-release would also benefit I think)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165802922" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165802922">(May 16 2019 at 12:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe. Maybe a mentor issue also.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165803069" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165803069">(May 16 2019 at 12:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll assign isue <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59548" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59548">#59548</a> to myself, with the attention of figuring out if this is indeed a known limitation of <code>#[linkage]</code> and if so, attempting to replace the ICE with a more sensible error message.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165803567" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165803567">(May 16 2019 at 12:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>next: "Compiler panic with generic-typed nested closures" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59494" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59494">#59494</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165803652" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165803652">(May 16 2019 at 12:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>this really would be nice to get assigned. I'll post a request for a volunteer in the main meeting topic</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165803929" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165803929">(May 16 2019 at 12:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>next: "assertion failure with src/test/ui/pattern/const-pat-ice.rs" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59996" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59996">#59996</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165803962" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165803962">(May 16 2019 at 12:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>I triaged this ancient bug as P-high 28 days ago, with the caveat that I wanted someone to talk me out of downgrading it. No one has. I'm going to downgrade to P-medium and also assign to myself so I do not lose track of it.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165804059" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165804059">(May 16 2019 at 12:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>next: "ICE running clippy on embedded crate in release mode" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59898" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59898">#59898</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165804250" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165804250">(May 16 2019 at 12:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>we did discuss 28 days ago whether to backport PR <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/58605" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/58605">#58605</a> to stable and declined to do so. There was some <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/58605#issuecomment-484929150" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/58605#issuecomment-484929150">pushback</a> regarding that decision but I didn't see that comment myself and I don't know if anyone else saw it either.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165804363" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165804363">(May 16 2019 at 12:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>in any case that same <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/58605#issuecomment-484929150" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/58605#issuecomment-484929150">comment</a> also suggested we expand the test suite for <code>thumb-*</code> ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165804382" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165804382">(May 16 2019 at 12:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>and there was also a question there about whether <code>cargo-check</code> and <code>cargo-clippy</code> are "included in the general Rust stability guarantee"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165804510" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165804510">(May 16 2019 at 12:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>(i don't really know how best to respond to that question. Like, software has bugs, and developers have to measure tradeoffs. The author of the patch thought the trade-off wasn't worth it. Not sure what else there is to say, apart from whether other teams like the T-release team should potentially have the authority to override T-compiler when it comes to backports?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165804781" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165804781">(May 16 2019 at 12:29)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>T-release team should potentially have the authority to override T-compiler when it comes to backports?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Speaking as a T-release member, but not for the team, no please <span aria-label="slight smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="slight smile">:slight_smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165804898" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165804898">(May 16 2019 at 12:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>I will however note, on the subject of the hypothesized backport of PR <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/58605" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/58605">#58605</a> ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165804946" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165804946">(May 16 2019 at 12:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>... that there were comments to the effect of "this PR wouldn't justify a point release. but maybe it should be included if there <em>is</em> a point release."</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165804950" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165804950">(May 16 2019 at 12:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>and then it looks like we've had <em>two</em> point releases...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165805006" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165805006">(May 16 2019 at 12:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>the second fwiw was intended as a security release and we didn't consider including other things in it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165805011" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165805011">(May 16 2019 at 12:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>primarily to make sure it went well from my side of things</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165805012" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165805012">(May 16 2019 at 12:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>ah okay thanks <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165805024" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165805024">(May 16 2019 at 12:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's a very good point, I had forgotten about the motivation for 1.34.2, but now I remember it (the Error::type_id thing)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165805027" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165805027">(May 16 2019 at 12:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, it was particularly "we need to get this security release out the door <em>immediately</em>"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165805047" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165805047">(May 16 2019 at 12:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>what I personally think for stable backports is the teams should nominate and approve things they think are safe for backport, and the release team decide whether to make the release or not based on the approved stuff</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165805060" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165805060">(May 16 2019 at 12:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I think the stable-nomination of PR <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/58605" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/58605">#58605</a> even predated 1.34.1 ... is that right?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165805070" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165805070">(May 16 2019 at 12:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>yep</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165805078" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165805078">(May 16 2019 at 12:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>1.34.1 was a bit weird, but <em>shrugs</em></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165805083" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165805083">(May 16 2019 at 12:33)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>what I personally think for stable backports is the teams should nominate and approve things they think are safe for backport, and the release team decide whether to make the release or not based on the approved stuff</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I actually personally agree with this. The whole "lets backport <em>if</em> there is a point release" does not really make sense to me.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165805142" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165805142">(May 16 2019 at 12:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe we just need to settle on the actual policy there and codify it.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165805153" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165805153">(May 16 2019 at 12:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll make a note in the meeting topic.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165805163" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165805163">(May 16 2019 at 12:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>(please ping me if you end up discussing it at the meeting)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165805267" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165805267">(May 16 2019 at 12:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway, it seems to me like we are not going to backport anything for <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59898" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59898">#59898</a> at this point.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165805308" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165805308">(May 16 2019 at 12:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's hard to make a 1.34.3 literally one week before 1.35.0 :D</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165805362" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165805362">(May 16 2019 at 12:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>next: " ICE in src/librustc/ty/query/plumbing.rs when compiling incrementally" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59716" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59716">#59716</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165805437" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165805437">(May 16 2019 at 12:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>under the assumption that <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59716" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/59716">#59716</a> is fixed, I'm going to downgrade it to P-medium. For now I'll continue to leave it open (as E-needstest) and assigned to self to investigate said test, as previously commented on that issue.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165805765" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165805765">(May 16 2019 at 12:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>next: "Incorporate RLS bug tracking into compiler team triage" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/58858" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/58858">#58858</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165805784" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165805784">(May 16 2019 at 12:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>there's been lip service paid here, in that links have been added to the agenda page for this meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165805788" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165805788">(May 16 2019 at 12:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>but its at the bottom of the agenda</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165805797" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165805797">(May 16 2019 at 12:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>which, for  now, means it is very unlikely to actually get visited.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165805819" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165805819">(May 16 2019 at 12:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>the whole process here is something that we will probably discuss at the steering meeting regarding issue triage.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165805844" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165805844">(May 16 2019 at 12:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>next: "ICE on higher-trait bounds" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60218" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60218">#60218</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165805913" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165805913">(May 16 2019 at 12:44)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> if you have anything to report on <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60218" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60218">#60218</a>, it would be great if you could leave a  note in the issue. If you think it is not realistic for you to look into this in the next two weeks, let us know and we can attempt to reassign.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165805921" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165805921">(May 16 2019 at 12:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>also, if <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60218" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60218">#60218</a> should not be P-high, that would be good to know too.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165805962" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165805962">(May 16 2019 at 12:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>next: "reached the type-length limit while instantiating" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/58952" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/58952">#58952</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165805994" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165805994">(May 16 2019 at 12:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>no one is assigned to issue <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/58952" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/58952">#58952</a>. We have a suspicion that this is a T-libs issue rather than a T-compiler one, but have not confirmed this.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165806422" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165806422">(May 16 2019 at 12:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm going to assume that <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/58952" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/58952">#58952</a> is a duplicate of <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54540" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54540">#54540</a>. In turn, <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54540" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54540">#54540</a> ("Exponential compile-time and type_length_limit blowup when nesting closure wrappers") is, for better or for worse, P-medium (but also I-nominated).</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165806448" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165806448">(May 16 2019 at 12:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>so I'm going to remove the nominated tag from <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/58952" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/58952">#58952</a> and downgrade it to P-medium.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165806580" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165806580">(May 16 2019 at 12:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>however, I'm worried that <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54540" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54540">#54540</a> is going to get lost in the shuffle of P-medium bugs</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165806591" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165806591">(May 16 2019 at 12:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>(it <strong>is</strong> I-nominated at least...)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165806709" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165806709">(May 16 2019 at 12:54)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119009">@eddyb</span> 's comment <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54540#issuecomment-485240110" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54540#issuecomment-485240110">here</a> on <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54540" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54540">#54540</a> is <strong>really</strong> good.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165806719" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165806719">(May 16 2019 at 12:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm going to post a request for volunteer to investigate to the main meeting area.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165806855" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165806855">(May 16 2019 at 12:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>(apologies for not doing anything on that. wg-grammar got me working on parser generator stuff)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165806879" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165806879">(May 16 2019 at 12:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>its okay, it doesn't need to be just your problem.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165806885" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165806885">(May 16 2019 at 12:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>and it looks like an interesting one to resolve.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165806888" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165806888">(May 16 2019 at 12:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think it came up in meeting last week and I said something but I forget what</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165807000" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165807000">(May 16 2019 at 12:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>or maybe it was some random topic on here. either way, I think we should be smarter about computing this value</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165807031" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165807031">(May 16 2019 at 12:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>even if we compute the same value as today, we should do it faster. and I might've said I will try to implement that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165807057" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165807057">(May 16 2019 at 12:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>hey <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span> , regarding the continuing thread on <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/58605" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/58605">#58605</a>, ... we don't want to have continued discussion on that PR, right? I was about to post a comment recommending to jamesmunns that they open a fresh issue regarding the Tier status of Thumb, but then I realized I wasn't sure where would be best to have that discussion.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165807129" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165807129">(May 16 2019 at 13:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>next: "llvm lint: "Undefined behavior: Call argument type mismatches callee parameter type" with mixing debug and release" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/48310" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/48310">#48310</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165807149" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165807149">(May 16 2019 at 13:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>needs someone to followup. Will post request for help.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165807221" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165807221">(May 16 2019 at 13:01)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>but then I realized I wasn't sure where would be best to have that discussion.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Or who to have it with? Seems to me like tier bumping is a shared concern between libs, infra, compiler, and lang</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165807307" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165807307">(May 16 2019 at 13:02)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<blockquote>
<p>but then I realized I wasn't sure where would be best to have that discussion.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Or who to have it with? Seems to me like tier bumping is a shared concern between libs, infra, compiler, and lang</p>
</blockquote>
<p>all the more reason to try to migrate the conversation away from a T-compiler PR ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165807318" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165807318">(May 16 2019 at 13:02)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> sure</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165807326" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165807326">(May 16 2019 at 13:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>but yes, the point remains: Do I advise them to open an issue?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165807344" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165807344">(May 16 2019 at 13:03)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> sgtm</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165807351" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165807351">(May 16 2019 at 13:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>or is that just adding noise to our system and is unlikely to actually get the problem resolved?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165807439" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165807439">(May 16 2019 at 13:04)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> issues come cheap... they grow steadily every day with no prospect of ever shrinking in total so I wouldn't lose any sleep over adding extra noise</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165807691" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165807691">(May 16 2019 at 13:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>filed "Should Thumb bugs get increased visibility, e.g. Tier 1 status?" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60880" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60880">#60880</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165807778" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165807778">(May 16 2019 at 13:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>next: "ICE when running kcov with proptest as dev-dependency" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60372" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60372">#60372</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165807887" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165807887">(May 16 2019 at 13:09)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> would you be willing to take on the task of verifying (or at least increasing confidence) that <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60372" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60372">#60372</a> is a duplicate of <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/58375" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/58375">#58375</a> (where the latter you self-assigned last week) ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165807969" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165807969">(May 16 2019 at 13:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>next: "ICE with unsized associated type" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60431" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60431">#60431</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165807976" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165807976">(May 16 2019 at 13:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll post a request in general meeting area</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165808134" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165808134">(May 16 2019 at 13:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>next: "ICE with existential_type feature <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60407" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60407">#60407</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165809096" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165809096">(May 16 2019 at 13:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>downgrading to P-medium (now that I've explicitly noted that this ICE should block stabilization of <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/34511" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/34511">#34511</a> (<code>impl Trait</code>)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165809190" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165809190">(May 16 2019 at 13:26)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> I can auto-P-medium all "unstable buggy features that don't cause an ICE without gate" for you if you like</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165809235" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165809235">(May 16 2019 at 13:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>its tough because my gut I know some of these ICE's are cases of real bugs that can be witnessed without the feature</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165809249" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165809249">(May 16 2019 at 13:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't know how <em>many</em> of them fall into that category though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165809375" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165809375">(May 16 2019 at 13:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>(As for existential_type, we'll need a concerted effort to fix it and that will likely have to wait until after async/await is stabilized on nightly)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165809397" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165809397">(May 16 2019 at 13:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>(and ofc we need the syntax RFC to get merged)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165809447" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165809447">(May 16 2019 at 13:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway, for now, its probably best to not auto-P-medium anything</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165809500" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165809500">(May 16 2019 at 13:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165809514" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165809514">(May 16 2019 at 13:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>I mean, I guess I myself <em>am</em> auto P-medium'ing things during this pre-triage process</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165810474" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165810474">(May 16 2019 at 13:41)</a>:</h4>
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<p>we don't want to have continued discussion on that PR, right? I was about to post a comment recommending to jamesmunns that they open a fresh issue regarding the Tier status of Thumb, but then I realized I wasn't sure where would be best to have that discussion.</p>
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<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> eh, the issue is there is no process for promoting a target to tier 1</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165810628" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165810628">(May 16 2019 at 13:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>like what are the requirements for it? who needs to approve the tier change?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-16%20%2354818/near/165812281" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-16.20.2354818.html#165812281">(May 16 2019 at 14:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>feel free to generalize the issue accordingly. <span aria-label="wink" class="emoji emoji-1f609" role="img" title="wink">:wink:</span>  Or open a new one.</p>



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